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Date:  Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:14:27 +0000
From:  "Vapor" <bluequartz (at mark) vaporised.com>
Subject:  [coba-e:08032] Re: OT: Spamcop BL - good or dangerous?
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> Sometimes I get a message from any of lists I'm subscribed to, that mail to
> my address bounces.
> And as a reason I see Spamcop blocking sender's (legitimate) server.

Firstly I'd be recommending the server admin attempts to have it removed from the 
spamcop dnsbl. Spamcop is a popular and well respected list which most including myself 
class as "work safe" - there will be a legitimate reason for them being listed, but 
this may be something as simple as an old IP or incorrectly configured email server.

> Here comes the question:
> What would you use instead of Spamcop?
> It gotta be free service, and the more lists the better: right now, Spamcop
> is #1 blocking BL in the logs.
> I am afraid if I drop it, the blocking will be worse.

Same here, spamcop blocks more spam than any other dnsbl's I use. Below I've listed the 
dnsbl's I use on firstly a works server, which uses less lists of questionable policy, 
the second is a personal email server with more stringent lists in use (however these 
have blocked a lot of email from possibly legitimate sources). The numbers under each 
are outputted by a script I use and represent the number of emails blocked by each list 
since 4am log rotation. Not that useful for direct comparison as that works server has 
a very low email load compared to that personal server.

WORKS:

bl.spamcop.net
21
sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
11
relays.ordb.org
0
in.dnsbl.org
0
ex.dnsbl.org
0
list.dsbl.org
2
dnsbl.ahbl.org
0
dsn.rfc-ignorant.org
0
postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
0
abuse.rfc-ignorant.org
0
TOTAL DNSBL
34
TOTAL BADMTA
10
TOTAL MANUAL
1
TOTAL PROCMAIL
4

PERSONAL:

bl.spamcop.net
183
combined.njabl.org
85
sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
58
dnsbl.sorbs.net
27
relays.ordb.org
0
in.dnsbl.org
0
ex.dnsbl.org
0
list.dsbl.org
0
multihop.dsbl.org
0
dnsbl.ahbl.org
0
dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net
5
dsn.rfc-ignorant.org
0
postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
0
abuse.rfc-ignorant.org
0
TOTAL DNSBL
358
TOTAL BADMTA
71
TOTAL MANUAL
4
TOTAL PROCMAIL
2

Good luck!

Brett